Konsum Berghotel Oberhof

Family-friendly hotel with full-service spa and health club

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Boating
Premium bedding, down duvets, in-room safe, blackout curtains
Terrace/patio
Bar (on property)
Bowling

Reviews

8.6 out of 10

Excellent

Popular amenities

  • Breakfast available
  • Bar
    Bar
  • Pool
    Pool
  • Gym
    Gym
  • Parking available
    Parking available
  • Spa
    Spa
The price is HK$640
HK$717 total
includes taxes & fees
28 Nov - 29 Nov

Room options

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Showing 23 of 23 rooms

Classic Quadruple Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 377 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Basic Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 258 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Queen Bed

Classic Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 269 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Down duvet
  • 323 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 2 Single Beds and 1 King Bed

Classic Apartment

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 484 sq ft
  • Sleeps 7
  • 2 Single Beds, 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Single Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 194 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 Queen Bed

Comfort Suite

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 484 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Quadruple Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 409 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 258 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed

Classic Room

Highlights

Separate dining area
Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Kitchenette
Mini-fridge
  • 377 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Queen Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed

Junior Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 377 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 215 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed

Classic Single Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Premium bedding
Blackout curtains
Ceiling fan
  • 151 sq ft
  • Sleeps 1
  • 1 Large Single Bed

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 215 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed

Basic Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 312 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 Queen Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed

Classic Quadruple Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 506 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Comfort Double Room, 1 King Bed with Sofa bed

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 248 sq ft
  • Sleeps 3
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed

Classic Double Room, 1 King Bed

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Premium bedding
Blackout curtains
  • 215 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed

Classic Apartment

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 484 sq ft
  • Sleeps 6
  • 2 Single Beds, 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 355 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

Classic Double Room

Highlights

Soundproofed
Heating
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
Blackout curtains
Down duvet
Premium bedding
  • 237 sq ft
  • Sleeps 2
  • 1 King Bed

Basic Room

Highlights

Separate dining area
Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Kitchenette
Mini-fridge
  • 377 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Single Bunk Bed

Deluxe Double Room

Highlights

Separate sitting area
Soundproofed
Heating
Free rollaway/extra beds
Free cots/infant beds
Flat-screen TV
Hypo-allergenic bedding
Pillow menu
  • 269 sq ft
  • Sleeps 4
  • 1 King Bed and 1 Queen Sofa Bed

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About the area

Map
Theodor-Neubauer-Straße 20, Oberhof, TH, 98559

What's nearby

  • H2Oberhof Wellnessbad - 6 min walk - 0.6 km
  • Lotto Thuringia Arena am Rennsteig - 9 min walk - 0.8 km
  • Lotto Thüringen Skisport-Halle Oberhof - 12 min walk - 1.0 km
  • Bikepark Oberhof - 5 min drive - 2.2 km
  • Fallbachlift - 6 min drive - 2.3 km

Getting around

  • Zella-Mehlis West Station - 14 min drive
  • Erfurt (ERF) - 52 min drive

Restaurants

  • ‪Rodelstubn - ‬12 min drive
  • ‪Kati's Café Stübchen - ‬7 min walk
  • ‪Gasthof Zur Wegscheide - ‬4 min drive
  • ‪Neue Gehlberger Hütte - ‬22 min drive
  • ‪Forsthaus Sattelbach - ‬8 min drive

About this property

Konsum Berghotel Oberhof

Family-friendly hotel near Thuringian Forest
Take advantage of a bowling alley, a terrace and a shopping centre on-site at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof. Active travellers can enjoy hiking/biking trails, a ropes course and hunting at this hotel. Treat yourself to a facial, aromatherapy or a sports massage at Wellness zu allen 4 Jahreszeiten, the on-site spa. The on-site local cuisine restaurant, Restaurant Saltus, offers breakfast, dinner, light fare and children's meals. Stay connected with free in-room WiFi, with a speed of 500+ Mbps (good for 6+ people or 10+ devices), and guests can find other amenities, such as a garden and a library.
Additional perks include:
  • An indoor pool with sunloungers
  • Buffet breakfast (surcharge), self-parking (surcharge) and an electric car charging station
  • Express check-out, express check-in and smoke-free property
  • A front desk safe, bike parking and tour/ticket information
Room features
All 96 rooms boast comforts such as premium bedding and pillow menus, as well as perks such as free WiFi and safes.
Other conveniences in all rooms include:
  • Hypo-allergenic bedding and down duvets
  • Bathrooms with eco-friendly toiletries and baths or showers
  • 43-inch flat-screen TVs with satellite channels
  • Wardrobes/cupboards, LED light bulbs and heating

Languages

English, German

Property amenities

Internet

  • Available in all rooms: Free WiFi and wired Internet
  • In-room WiFi speed: 500+ Mbps (good for 6+ people or 10+ devices)
  • Available in some public areas: Free WiFi

Parking and public transport

  • Self parking on site (EUR 14 per night)
  • Motorhome/coach/lorry parking (subject to charges) on site
  • Limited on-site parking
  • Electric car charging station on site
  • Ski shuttle nearby

Food and drink

  • Buffet breakfast available for a fee daily 7 AM–10:30 AM: EUR 25 for adults and EUR 12.5 for children
  • 1 restaurant
  • 1 bar

Restaurants on site

  • Restaurant Saltus

Things to do

  • Bike tour information
  • Bike cleaning
  • Bike parking
  • Bike repair services
  • Bike shop
  • Bike storage
  • Bowling alley
  • Electric bike charging stations
  • Evening entertainment
  • Fitness centre
  • Table football
  • Full-service spa
  • Hiking/biking trails
  • Hunting
  • Indoor pool
  • Mountain biking
  • Ropes course
  • Sauna
  • Shopping centre
  • Steam room

Family friendly

  • Bowling alley
  • Indoor pool
  • Snack bar/deli
  • Soundproofed rooms

Conveniences

  • Banquet hall
  • Front-desk safe
  • Gift shop/newsstand
  • Library
  • Vending machine

Guest services

  • Change of bedsheets (on request)
  • Change of towels (on request)
  • Dry-cleaning service
  • Front desk (limited hours)
  • Housekeeping (on request)
  • Luggage storage
  • Multilingual staff
  • Ski storage
  • Snow sports gear
  • Tour/ticket assistance
  • Wedding services

Business services

  • Business centre
  • Conference centre
  • Meeting rooms - 5

Outdoors

  • Garden
  • Outdoor furniture
  • Picnic area
  • Pool sunloungers
  • Terrace

Spa

  • 5 treatment rooms
  • Aromatherapy
  • Body scrubs
  • Body treatments
  • Body wraps
  • Couples treatment room(s)
  • Facials
  • Manicures and pedicures
  • Massage - hot stone
  • Massage - prenatal
  • Massage - sports
  • Massage/treatment rooms
  • Reflexology
  • Sauna
  • Spa open daily
  • Steam room
  • Turkish bath/hammam

Accessibility

  • If you have any requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking.
  • This property does not have any lifts
  • Area rugs in public areas

More

  • At least 80% of lighting from LEDs
  • Books
  • Double-glazed windows
  • Games
  • Locally owned and organised tours and activities
  • No plastic coffee stirrers
  • No plastic drinking straws
  • Reusable cups only
  • Reusable tableware only
  • Smoke-free property
  • Vegan dining options
  • Vegetarian dining options

Room amenities

Bedroom

  • Bed sheets
  • Blackout drapes/curtains
  • Down duvet
  • Heating
  • Hypo-allergenic bedding
  • Pillow menu
  • Premium bedding

Bathroom

  • Bath or shower
  • Eco-friendly toiletries
  • Hairdryer
  • Private bathroom
  • Shampoo
  • Soap
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels

Entertainment

  • 43-inch flat-screen TV
  • Satellite channels

More

  • Eco-friendly cleaning products used
  • Energy-saving switches
  • Free long-distance calls
  • Guidebooks/recommendations
  • LED light bulbs
  • Local maps
  • Phone
  • Safe
  • Soundproofing
  • Water-efficient showers only
  • Water-efficient toilets only

Policies

Check-in

Check-in start time: 3:00 PM; check-in end time: 8:00 PM
Express check-in available
Minimum check-in age - 18

Check-out

Check-out before 11 AM
Contactless check-out
A late check-out fee will be charged
Express check-out available

Special check-in instructions

The front desk is open daily from 8:00 AM - 8:00 PM
Guests planning to arrive outside of normal check-in hours must contact the property in advance for check-in instructions; front desk staffed during limited hours
To make arrangements for check-in please contact the property at least 24 hours before arrival using the information on the booking confirmation
Prior to arrival, you must complete online registration via a secure link

Renovations and closures

The property is closed between 9 March and 12 March.

Access methods

Front desk (limited hours)

Pets

Pets are allowed for an extra charge of EUR 30 per pet, per night
Service animals are welcome, and are exempt from fees
Welcoming dogs and cats only
2 total pets
Specific rooms only, restrictions apply; pet-friendly rooms can be requested by contacting the property on the number on the booking confirmation
Food and water bowls are available

Children and extra beds

Children are welcome

Payment types at the property

Important information

Fees

You'll be asked to pay the following charges at the property. Fees may include applicable taxes:

  • A tax is imposed by the city: EUR 2.00 per person, per night

We have included all charges provided to us by the property.

Optional extras

  • Fee for buffet breakfast: from approximately EUR 25 for adults and from EUR 12.5 for children
  • Self-parking fee: EUR 14 per night
  • Pet fee: EUR 30 per pet, per night
  • Service animals are exempt from fees
  • A late check-out fee will be charged

The above list may not be comprehensive. Fees and deposits may not include tax and are subject to change.

You need to know

Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed
This property accepts credit cards, debit cards and cash
This property reserves the right to pre-authorise the guest's credit card prior to arrival.
Cashless transactions are available
This property uses eco-friendly cleaning products
Noise-free guestrooms cannot be guaranteed

We should mention

This property does not have any lifts
Pool access available from 10:30 AM to 10:00 PM
Reservations are required for massage services and spa treatments; reservations can be made by contacting the property prior to arrival, using the contact information on the booking confirmation
Only registered guests are allowed in the guestrooms
Children under 13 years old are not allowed in the swimming pool, health club or fitness facility without adult supervision

Property is also known as

Berghotel Oberhof Hotel
Berghotel Oberhof
Berghotel Oberhof
Konsumhotel Oberhof
Konsum Berghotel Oberhof Hotel
Konsum Berghotel Oberhof Oberhof
Konsum Berghotel Oberhof Hotel Oberhof

Frequently asked questions

Does Konsum Berghotel Oberhof have a pool?

Yes, this property has an indoor pool. Pool access is from 10:30 AM to 10:00 PM.

How much does it cost to stay at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof?

As of 22 Nov 2024, prices found for a 1-night stay for 2 adults at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof on 28 Nov 2024 start from HK$639.7, excluding taxes and fees. This price is based on the lowest nightly price found in the last 24 hours for stays in the next 30 days. Prices are subject to change. Choose your dates for more accurate prices.

Is Konsum Berghotel Oberhof pet-friendly?

Yes, this hotel allows cats and dogs (limit 2 total). There's a fee of EUR 30 per pet, per night. Service animals are exempt from fees.

How much is parking at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof?

Self-parking is available for EUR 14 per night. Limited spots are available.

What time is check-in at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof?

Check-in start time: 3:00 PM; check-in end time: 8:00 PM.

What time is check-out at Konsum Berghotel Oberhof?

Checkout is at 11 AM. Late checkout is available for a fee.

Where is Konsum Berghotel Oberhof located?

This family-friendly Oberhof hotel is located in the mountains, just steps away from Thuringian Forest and Thuringian Forest Nature Park. Exotarium Oberhof and Wadeberg Ski Jump Hills are also within 5 minutes.

Konsum Berghotel Oberhof Reviews

Reviews

8.6

Excellent

Rating 10 - Excellent. 102 out of 230 reviews" "
Rating 8 - Good. 97 out of 230 reviews" "
Rating 6 - Okay. 26 out of 230 reviews" "
Rating 4 - Poor. 4 out of 230 reviews" "
Rating 2 - Terrible. 1 out of 230 reviews" "

9.2/10

Cleanliness

8.8/10

Staff & service

8.8/10

Amenities

8.4/10

Property conditions & facilities

8.4/10

Eco-friendliness

Reviews

10/10 Excellent

Anke

Business traveller
Liked: Amenities
Ich habe schon ein paar Mal hier übernachtet und kann es uneingeschränkt weiter empfehlen. Besonders schön finde ich die vielseitige Saunalandschaft, den Pool und das leckere reichhaltige Frühstück. Auch in den Betten schläft es sich sehr gut. Das Badezimmer hat eine große Dusche und es ist alles sehr sauber. Zum Empfang gibt es eine Flasche kostenloses Wasser.
Stayed 1 night in Jul 2024

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Mar 2023

10/10 Excellent

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Comfortable and relaxing! Delicious breakfast
Very clean and comfortable place to stay. Do yourself a favor and get the buffet breakfast, one of the best I’ve ever enjoyed!
Stayed 1 night in Jul 2019

10/10 Excellent

Denis

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Jun 2019

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
orndorff
The lady at the front desk was super friendly and helpful and her English was great. On a Saturday night, almost all restaurants required a reservation for dinner and many places treated you like a “fool” to have the audacity to show up without a reservation, telling you to move along in German. The breakfast at this hotel was superb, champagne, fresh squeezed juice and the best pancakes. I wish I could eat more, the selection was wonderful and everything was delicious.
Stayed 1 night in May 2019

10/10 Excellent

Ralf

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Apr 2019

10/10 Excellent

anja

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Nice
Hotel is very nice. Restaurants is very near area. I had a vegan pizza near hotel. It was so good .
Stayed 1 night in Apr 2019

6/10 Okay

Verified traveller

Liked: Property conditions & facilities
Disliked: Staff & service, room comfort
There is no free drinking water in the restaurant.
When you pay for half board, the hotel charges you for drinking water additionally.The price of the drinking water is extremely high.
Stayed 9 nights in Aug 2018

10/10 Excellent

Cameron

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Great place for a quiet getaway.
We had a great stay. They had everything in our room for our small children. We never had to ask for anything. The town is beautiful and the food was excellent.
Stayed 1 night in Aug 2018

10/10 Excellent

Christopher

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Countryside Hotel
Great Hotel, clean tidy and nice staff.

8/10 Good

igor

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort

8/10 Good

World Traveller, England

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Pretty good hotel in a sleepy village
Oberhof is really a sleepy village with very little to offer apart from fantastic nature. Hotel is pretty good. Very clean. Good breakfast. Bed is little bit too soft for my taste, but some people like it. Overall, very satisfied.

8/10 Good

Stephen

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Better than expected
All was excellent. Lovely food in the dining room. Great breakfast included in price. Only downside was the wifi kept dropping out.

8/10 Good

DANIEL

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities
Great breakfast and good spa area
Stayed 1 night in Nov 2024

6/10 Okay

Diek

Business traveller
Liked: Cleanliness, amenities
Solides Hotel mit vielen Möglichkeiten…
Stayed 2 nights in Oct 2024

8/10 Good

Karsten

Travelled with partner
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service
Waren in einem Nebenhaus untergebracht ,Einrichtung einfach aber sauber .Personal sehr freundlich ,Frühstück vielfältig ,Wellnessbereich Bereich war gut ,würde wieder buchen aber dann eher im Haupthaus
Stayed 2 nights in Oct 2024

6/10 Okay

Marcel

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Mooi hotel met goed en uitgebreid ontbijtbuffet. In de avond geen menukaart, alleen een (duur, ca €50) diner buffet. Hier geen gebruik van gemaakt. Parkeren naast hotel €15 per dag maar als je auto ca. 2 km verderop parkeert dan is het gratis (wordt niet op gewezen). Badkamer erg klein, geen airco aanwezig. Alleen plafondventilator en werkt nauwelijks als het erg warm is. Mooie wandelomgeving. Weinig leuke plaatsen in de buurt. Tip: bezoek Erfurt
Stayed 11 nights in Aug 2024

10/10 Excellent

Axel

Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Schöner Aufenthalt
Saubere, renovierte Zimmer. Freundliches Personal. Umfangreiches Frühstück. Großzügige Anlage mit Wellnessbereich. Ruhige Lage.
Stayed 1 night in Jun 2024

6/10 Okay

Ralf

Liked: Staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Ordentliches Hotel mit Stärke im Schwimmbadbereich
Leider wird die in der Lobby und den Fluren des Hauptgebäudes ansprechende wohnlich angenehme Hotelatmosphäre nicht in den renovierten Zimmern beibehalten. Diese wirken aufgrund der verwendeten Materialien und Farben doch recht nüchtern unterkühlt. Die aktuell auf 12Euro angehobene Parkplatzgebühr ist wenig attraktiv.
Stayed 1 night in May 2024

10/10 Excellent

Tobias

Business traveller
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Feb 2024

8/10 Good

Matthias

Stayed 1 night in Jan 2024

8/10 Good

Verified traveller

Business traveller
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Stayed 1 night in Feb 2024

8/10 Good

Florian

Business traveller
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, amenities, property conditions & facilities
Tolles Hotel!
Stayed 1 night in Jan 2024

10/10 Excellent

Doreen

Stayed 1 night in Jan 2024

10/10 Excellent

Holger

Travelled with family
Liked: Cleanliness, staff & service, property conditions & facilities, room comfort
Tolles Wellneshotel zum Entspannen nach Skihalle
Das Konsumhotel in Oberhof ist schon eine sehr schöne Location. Durchgefroren kamen wir aus der Skihalle an und konnten sofort auf unsere Zimmer. Und dann ging es auch gleich in den Wellnessbereich, der sehr schön, wenn auch klein und verwinkelt ist. Und ein großes Lob verdient das tolle Frühstücksbuffet, hier wird wrklich jeder Wunsch erfüllt! Ein bisschen ein kleines Manko ist das etwas "altbackene" Treppenhaus. Aber das ist halt in einem alten Gebäude so.
Stayed 1 night in Nov 2023